Connectivity Providers Database

From jqej@crux2.cit.cornell.edu Fri Apr 1 08:35:05 1994 Return-Path: <jqej@crux2.cit.cornell.edu> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 11:31:19 -0500 (EST) From: Ned Bade <jqej@crux2.cit.cornell.edu> Subject: Fw: Latest Philnet developments from Cebu conference To: Randy Bush & John Klensin <klensin@INFOODS.MIT.EDU>, randy@psg.com Message-Id: <Pine.3.89.9404011149.C13998-0100000@crux2.cit.cornell.edu> Dear Randy and John, I do not know if you have received this information yet by other routes. If so, please excuse the repetition. I though this might be a good update for the PH - Philippines section of gopher.psg.com Note: for now, a good rule of thumb conversion for the figures cited is 27 or 27.5 Philippine Pesos to the U.S. Dollar. --Ned Bade CIIFAD ------------------------------ From: Jim Ayson <76300.2074@COMPUSERVE.COM> Fri, 1 Apr 1994 04:42:14 EST To: Multiple recipients of list STACNET <STACNET%SEARN.BITNET@CORNELLC.CIT.CORNE LL.EDU> Subject: Latest Philnet developments from Cebu conference Summary of major points of talk of Dr. Rodolfo Villarica on the status of PhilNet in the Philippines Conducted at the International Conference on E-Mail, University of San Carlos, Talamban, Cebu City March 27-29, 1994 ............................................................................ Dr. Rodolfo Villarica's sessions during the E-Mail conference were composed of two parts: an introductory talk on the current status of the Philnet project, and a workshop and open forum that also included the participation of other representatives from PhilNet such as Arnie del Rosario and Ritchie Lozada of Ateneo de Manila, Kelsey Hartigan Go of De La Salle, and Rodel Atanacio of U.P. Diliman. Highlights of Dr. Villarica's update include the following: Organizational Concerns ....................... On the matter of IRF (Industrial Research Foundation): This is a non-profit NGO (non-governmental organizational) that was initially started to promote closer links between business and the academe. IRF was approached to act as the "godfather" and implementor the Philnet project. Dr. Villarica, a trustee of IRF, came aboard December 1993, to be on top of developments. Philnet Foundation, Inc, the organization intended to administer Philnet, is currently in the process of formation. Three organization meetings have been convened. The Articles of Incorporation and the By Laws are being polished. The foundation should be incorporated by April. Once Philnet is up and running, IRF's role will begin to diminish, perhaps from September 1994 onwards. The board of trustees consist of the following: Arnie del Rosario (Ateneo de Manila), Jose Antonio Calvo (De La Salle), Dr. Roger Posadas (U.P. Diliman), Dr. Ruben Villareal (UPLB), Dr. Lillian Sison (UST), Ms. Rosanna Gonzalez (Xavier University), Fr. Joseph van den Daelen (SLU), Dr. Glory Chanco (IRF) and Dr. Rodolfo Villarica (IRF); ex-officio, Dr. Linda Posadas (DOST). Technical Committee consists of: Glenn Sipin (DOST) as chairman, Ritchie Lozada (Ateneo), Kelsey Hartigan Go (De La Salle), Ms. Merl Opena (DOST), with others still to be confirmed. For the position of General Manager, Philnet has recently hired Ms. Rosario "Rizza" Carlos, M.S. in Information Networking from Carnegie-Mellon University. Philnet is also scouting for office space, and most likely this will in the Ortigas Center, Mandaluyong area, near the PLDT Garnet exchange. Leased Line Concerns .................... In selecting the carrier for the 64 kbps leased line, IRF met with five major carriers: Globe, ETPI, Philcom, PT&T and PLDT. Of these five, PLDT was deemed as the fastest and most competent. Sprintlink was chosen as the service provider in the USA for the direct connection to the Internet. Status of the leased lines for the initial primary nodes are as follows: De La Salle University - activated Ateneo de Manila University - activated University of San Carlos - activated University of the Philippines, Diliman (about to be activated) University of Santo Tomas (scheduled for activation on March 28) Department of Science and Technology (D.O.S.T.) - Scheduled April 15 U.P. Los Banos - Scheduled April 15 St.Louis University (Baguio) - Scheduled April 15 Xavier University Cagayan - Scheduled May 9 All connections are via leased land line except for UPLB, SLU, and Xavier, which are microwave links. Cost and Funding concerns ......................... Cost of all nine leased line has been pegged at P123,000 per month. (Approximately P15,000 per month for each site). The IRF/Philnet/PLDT final contract still has to be signed. The D.O.S.T. had initally committed to fund Philnet for the first year of operation (a sum of P12.5 Million), after which Philnet would have to be a self-sustainable organization. During the conference, a D.O.S.T. representative said that a second year's funding would be possible. As a fund raising measure, Dr. Villarica mentioned that Philnet is in the process of courting donor subscribers from the corporate sector. The target is initially five donor subscribers at $3,000 per month that will be acting as primary nodes, with a limit of 1.8 GB/month of data traffic. Any volume in excess of the upper limits will cost the subscriber $1.50 per megabyte. Non-donor subscribers will be charged P15,000/month, with an upper limit of 0.9 gigabytes per month. Philnet's basic business philosophy: highly profitable not for profit. That is, all profits are to be plowed back into improving facilities. Pricing policies for secondary nodes (linked to primary nodes) ..................................... The following are approximate figures quoted by Dr. Villarica for secondary nodes: P7,000/month - commercial customers P5,000/month - NGOs and government offices (and presumably for other non-profit organizations as well) P3,000/month - schools connected as secondary nodes P300/month - for individual users These serve as a "guiding rate" and are subject to change or negotiation with the primary nodes involved. Another cost factor to consider is the cost of the leased line to the primary node. Equipment concerns .................. Routers to be used are supplied by Cisco, the brand most commonly found on the Internet, required by most service providers. The main router is a Cisco 7000 (located in a Sprint site at Stockton, CA), while the nodes will be using Cisco 2501 routers. The main router will temporaririly be located at the PLDT carrier site. The DNS server still has to acquired: to be borrowed from Ateneo de Manila. Timetable ......... The original objective was to get Philnet up and running by March 25. Though this deadline was not met, Philnet finally achieved direct Internet access connection by March 29, 10:18 am and users attending the conference at the the University of San Carlos were able to telnet to Internet sites. Issues raised and discussed during the workshop ............................................... A participant expressed concern about the possibility of obscene material coming into the Philippines from the Internet and being accessed by minors. Others expressed concern that heavy users of the Net would be benefitting tremendously from the fixed charges and wasting bandwidth at the expense of light users. The Philnet panel took a common stand that it has no business policing the content of the data. As some participants said, once you start censoring content, the next step could be censoring political messages as well. Philnet does intend to monitor however the volume of data traffic passing through the nodes, and primary nodes that exceed the upper limits will be charged accordingly. On the matter of using fixed charges rather than volume charges, it was explained that if charges were based on volume then the commercial carriers would complain, ergo the solution found was to base it as a fixed charge so it would come out as a subscription or a membership. All in all costs are still quite reasonable, considering the alternatives. Dr. Villarica summed up these issues by saying that the overall objective of Philnet is to encourage interest in the Internet, not to restrict it. The more subscribers, the better. It is important to get as many users as possible connected in order to achieve the critical mass needed to make it useful. Another interesting issue raised was the matter of setting up sites on the Net containing data about the Philippines. Everyone agreed that this would be good not only for use on a national level, but also for interested researchers from abroad. The project of linking up the libraries of Ateneo, U.P., and De La Salle by 1995 was brought up. Although initially a wholly separate project, it had been suggested that they ride on the Philnet data highway to eliminate redundant efforts. The DOST described their ongoing project to put their extensive data bases on line. These databases consist of the status of ongoing and completed research projects. NAMRIA was also discussed as an agency who would be interseted in putting their geographical data on the Net for access by GIS (Geographical Information Systems) applications. Recorded by Jim Ayson, USC Talamban, Cebu City =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= jim ayson | mhawkins@bix.com metro manila, philippines | 76300.2074@compuserve.com fax: +632-632-6816 | jim.ayson@p300.f2.n750.z6.fidonet.org =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=