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From: "Michael P Simkins" <mike@imcldn.demon.co.uk> To: randy@m2xenix.psg.com Date: Thu, 6 Aug 92 20:05:00 GMT Hi Randy, sorry about the length of this message, but it shows some of the restrictions (!) of the tenner-a-month Internet service. Mike. Newsgroups: demon.ip.support From: cms@home.demon.co.uk (Cliff Stanford) Path: imcldn.demon.co.uk!demon!home.demon.co.uk!cms Subject: Mail handling on a Sun (SunOS 4.1.1) Distribution: world References: <BsGDD9.1zK@gate.demon.co.uk> Organization: Demon Systems Limited. Lines: 13 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1992 21:14:17 +0000 Message-ID: <712876457snx@home.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@gate.demon.co.uk In article <BsGDD9.1zK@gate.demon.co.uk> dec@s-strat.co.uk writes: > >How can I set things up so that incoming mail for alex.demon.co.uk >gets routed into the s-strat.co.uk domain? I have been through the sys >admin and networking manual but can't find anything which deals with >this case. Please bear in mind that we do not permit routing of mail for any host other than the <site>.demon.co.uk. I realise that's not what you're doing; just thought I'd mention it. Regards, Cliff. Newsgroups: demon.ip.support Path: imcldn.demon.co.uk!demon!alex!dec From: dec@alex.demon.co.uk (Doug Clinton) Subject: Re: Mail handling on a Sun (SunOS 4.1.1) Reply-To: dec@s-strat.co.uk Organization: Alex Technologies Ltd Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1992 08:30:21 GMT Message-ID: <BsI4yL.Gsr@gate.demon.co.uk> References: <BsGDD9.1zK@gate.demon.co.uk> <712876457snx@home.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@gate.demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration) Nntp-Posting-Host: alex.demon.co.uk In article <712876457snx@home.demon.co.uk>, cms@home.demon.co.uk (Cliff Stanford) writes: |> In article <BsGDD9.1zK@gate.demon.co.uk> dec@s-strat.co.uk writes: |> |> > |> >How can I set things up so that incoming mail for alex.demon.co.uk |> >gets routed into the s-strat.co.uk domain? I have been through the sys |> >admin and networking manual but can't find anything which deals with |> >this case. |> |> Please bear in mind that we do not permit routing of mail |> for any host other than the <site>.demon.co.uk. I realise that's |> not what you're doing; just thought I'd mention it. |> Regards, |> Cliff. I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Do you mean that you would not, for instance, route an address of "felix.alex.demon.co.uk" where felix was a local host here? Doug Newsgroups: demon.ip.support Path: imcldn.demon.co.uk!demon!cliff From: cliff@demon.co.uk (Cliff Stanford) Subject: Re: Mail handling on a Sun (SunOS 4.1.1) Organization: Demon Systems Ltd. Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1992 17:25:28 GMT Message-ID: <BsItqH.LwL@gate.demon.co.uk> X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4 References: <BsI4yL.Gsr@gate.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@gate.demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration) Nntp-Posting-Host: demon.demon.co.uk dec@alex.demon.co.uk (Doug Clinton) writes: : I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Do you mean that you would : not, for instance, route an address of "felix.alex.demon.co.uk" where : felix was a local host here? : I mean that all the following are outside of the "single host" terms: fred@felix.alex.demon.co.uk fred%felix.UUCP@alex.demon.co.uk alex!felix!fred@demon.co.uk @alex.demon.co.uk:fred@felix.somewhere.org Similarly, you cannot use our bandwidth for outgoing mail for a uknet site simply to save UKnet's 7p/k charges. Well you can, actually, but we'd like to charge you for it. It's a flat #200 per annum. Regards, Cliff. -- Cliff Stanford Demon Systems Limited Demon Internet Services 42 Hendon Lane *********************** London N3 1TT England THE INTERNET FOR A TENNER-A-MONTH 081 349 0063 Newsgroups: demon.ip.support Path: imcldn.demon.co.uk!demon!alex!dec From: dec@alex.demon.co.uk (Doug Clinton) Subject: Re: Mail handling on a Sun (SunOS 4.1.1) Reply-To: dec@s-strat.co.uk Organization: Alex Technologies Ltd Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1992 08:23:14 GMT Message-ID: <BsJzAr.7w8@gate.demon.co.uk> References: <BsI4yL.Gsr@gate.demon.co.uk> <BsItqH.LwL@gate.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@gate.demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration) Nntp-Posting-Host: alex.demon.co.uk In article <BsItqH.LwL@gate.demon.co.uk>, cliff@demon.co.uk (Cliff Stanford) writes: |> dec@alex.demon.co.uk (Doug Clinton) writes: |> : I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Do you mean that you would |> : not, for instance, route an address of "felix.alex.demon.co.uk" where |> : felix was a local host here? |> : |> I mean that all the following are outside of the "single host" |> terms: |> fred@felix.alex.demon.co.uk |> fred%felix.UUCP@alex.demon.co.uk |> alex!felix!fred@demon.co.uk |> @alex.demon.co.uk:fred@felix.somewhere.org Ok, that makes it clear. |> Similarly, you cannot use our bandwidth for outgoing mail for |> a uknet site simply to save UKnet's 7p/k charges. Well you can, |> actually, but we'd like to charge you for it. It's a flat #200 per |> annum. |> Regards, |> Cliff. What is a uknet site? We were hoping at some stage to use demon to replace our uknet connection as our main mail feed. We often send large volumes of data to the US. Are you saying that you would charge us for this? When we subscribed to TAM all we were told was that there would be no usage charges as long as "no-one abused the system". Perhaps you should publish some guidelines as to what constitutes abuse of the service. Thanks, Doug Newsgroups: demon.ip.support Path: imcldn.demon.co.uk!demon!cliff From: cliff@demon.co.uk (Cliff Stanford) Subject: Re: Mail handling on a Sun (SunOS 4.1.1) Organization: Demon Systems Ltd. Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1992 19:08:28 GMT Message-ID: <BsKt66.FDs@gate.demon.co.uk> X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4 References: <BsJzAr.7w8@gate.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@gate.demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration) Nntp-Posting-Host: demon.demon.co.uk dec@alex.demon.co.uk (Doug Clinton) writes: : What is a uknet site? We were hoping at some stage to use demon to : replace our uknet connection as our main mail feed. We often send : large volumes of data to the US. Are you saying that you would charge : us for this? : : When we subscribed to TAM all we were told was that there would be no : usage charges as long as "no-one abused the system". Perhaps you : should publish some guidelines as to what constitutes abuse of the : service. I think there is some confusion here. We are not talking about quantity, simply source. Your #10 per month means you can send as much mail as you wish, provided that it comes from your registered site of alex.demon.co.uk rather than, say, alex.co.uk. What I am saying is that, in addition to this service, we *will* act as a mail store-and-forward site for other domains but that this is an extra (actually a different) service. Regards, Cliff.
